Comments on: Off with their heads! http://newschoolsecurity.com/2010/02/off-with-their-heads/ The Blog Inspired By The Book Tue, 07 Feb 2012 02:09:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Chandler http://newschoolsecurity.com/2010/02/off-with-their-heads/#comment-948 Chandler Thu, 04 Feb 2010 20:20:46 +0000 http://newschoolsecurity.com/?p=1316#comment-948 I've never seen a "must-fire" policy, and I've developed and vetted security policies and standards with the Law Department more than once. Corporate Counsel very deliberately ensure that policy enforcement only specifies the right and not the obligation to act. Unfortunately, the harsh reality is that from what I've observed, the chosen severity of enforcement generally varies inversely with the seniority of the offender, so I assume that this structure is by-design, and not just to mitigate risk of unlawful termination litigation. I’ve never seen a “must-fire” policy, and I’ve developed and vetted security policies and standards with the Law Department more than once. Corporate Counsel very deliberately ensure that policy enforcement only specifies the right and not the obligation to act.

Unfortunately, the harsh reality is that from what I’ve observed, the chosen severity of enforcement generally varies inversely with the seniority of the offender, so I assume that this structure is by-design, and not just to mitigate risk of unlawful termination litigation.

]]> By: Michael http://newschoolsecurity.com/2010/02/off-with-their-heads/#comment-946 Michael Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:23:55 +0000 http://newschoolsecurity.com/?p=1316#comment-946 Commercial, military, gov't, the only thing that I've seen result in removal is porn. Even then, in some cases, put up a good enough argument (or even a bad one) and they'll let people slide. You pretty much have to commit murder in front of the office otherwise. Commercial, military, gov’t, the only thing that I’ve seen result in removal is porn. Even then, in some cases, put up a good enough argument (or even a bad one) and they’ll let people slide. You pretty much have to commit murder in front of the office otherwise.

]]> By: dunsany http://newschoolsecurity.com/2010/02/off-with-their-heads/#comment-945 dunsany Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:04:46 +0000 http://newschoolsecurity.com/?p=1316#comment-945 Well, I see it similarly to "stealing this car may lead to consequences up to and including prison." I have personally worked as a SO in places I've had someone fired for violating acceptable usage policy. It has to be left to the discretion of management, but often management is capricious. And if the policy violation made management look bad in a public way? Well, it's off with their heads in the town square with all the peasants forced to watch. And THAT is better than any policy. Well, I see it similarly to “stealing this car may lead to consequences up to and including prison.” I have personally worked as a SO in places I’ve had someone fired for violating acceptable usage policy. It has to be left to the discretion of management, but often management is capricious. And if the policy violation made management look bad in a public way? Well, it’s off with their heads in the town square with all the peasants forced to watch. And THAT is better than any policy.

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