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		<title>By: Russell</title>
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		<description>Great post, Josh, and very good discussion from wgragido, ean, and gorrie.

Regarding what InfoSec people and CISOs should do differently to evolve/change/adapt more effectively, we could start by including some &quot;meta-metrics&quot; for organization learning, agility, etc. 

I gave a presentation at Metricon a few years ago on this topic: &quot;&quot;Security Meta Metrics – Measuring Agility, Learning, and Unintended Consequences&quot; http://meritology.com/resources/Security%20Meta%20Metrics.ppt . It includes some specific ideas for such metrics, but really almost any metric will be better than the willful ignorance that most security organizations have today about continuous learning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Josh, and very good discussion from wgragido, ean, and gorrie.</p>
<p>Regarding what InfoSec people and CISOs should do differently to evolve/change/adapt more effectively, we could start by including some &#8220;meta-metrics&#8221; for organization learning, agility, etc. </p>
<p>I gave a presentation at Metricon a few years ago on this topic: &#8220;&#8221;Security Meta Metrics – Measuring Agility, Learning, and Unintended Consequences&#8221; <a href="http://meritology.com/resources/Security%20Meta%20Metrics.ppt" rel="nofollow">http://meritology.com/resources/Security%20Meta%20Metrics.ppt</a> . It includes some specific ideas for such metrics, but really almost any metric will be better than the willful ignorance that most security organizations have today about continuous learning.</p>
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